Session Start: Sun Jun 07 00:00:00 2015 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[07:19]<PCdoc> !w Washington
[07:19]<PCdoc> !w Washington D.C.
[07:30]<PCdoc> !help
[07:30]<PCdoc> !weather Washington
[07:31]<PCdoc> Why doesnt it show weather for washingston
[07:31]<PCdoc> !weather Niagra
[07:31]<PCdoc> !weather Niagara
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[13:01]<+camerongray> Hey PCdoc, not "seen" you in a while :P
[13:02]<PCdoc> hey camerongray yeah .. was busy with work
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[17:17]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[17:17]<@Calum> hey camerongray
[17:17]<+camerongray> Currently cooking, decided to work from uni only to find that some knobend has locked down the aircondiioning controls (fine in principle) but left it set to 30c
[17:17]<+camerongray> The lab is 30.5c and I'm dying
[17:17]<@Calum> wow
[17:18]<+camerongray> (glass roof)
[17:18]<+camerongray> Can't be good for the PCs :P
[17:18]<@Calum> not fun, I remember it getting to 40C briefly at OcUK but it was very uncomfortable by 30
[17:22]<Guest10258> hey guys
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[17:22]<@Calum> hey BC
[17:24]<@Calum> oh so a while ago I picked up one of those weird Gigabyte i-RAM things, where it has 4 RAM slots and a SATA port, like a "real RAMdisk"/SSD kind of hybrid, just got around to popping it in my PC tonight to test it
[17:24]<@Calum> pretty cool concept especially way back when it was current, not sure it likes being in a modern system though, it's acting oddly
[17:25]<@BC_Programming> interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-RAM
[17:26]<@Calum> that's the one
[17:26]<@Calum> apparently they only made 1000 or so
[17:26]<@BC_Programming> and it has a battery as well, apparently, I guess it would typically charge while the system is on
[17:26]<@Calum> It seems to be charging now yeah, power draw is up by 20W
[17:27]<@BC_Programming> so you connect it up via SATA and it draws power via PCI?
[17:27]<@Calum> gonna see if it behaves a bit better when it's charged but it might just not like modern systems, it seems to perform as expected with file copies and such but it craps out on any kind of benchmark
[17:27]<@Calum> indeed
[17:27]<@Calum> mainly because the PCI bus is powered when the system's "off"
[17:27]<@BC_Programming> ahh yes they get the 5v standby
[17:29]<@BC_Programming> hmm do modern systems even have normal PCI slots?
[17:29]<@Calum> well, I say modern, I'm still on X58
[17:30]<@Calum> but a surprising amount of boards do still have PCI slots, although it's getting less common
[17:31]<@BC_Programming> ahh I was thinking maybe you were using an adapter of some sort which could have explained oddness
[17:31]<@Calum> ah, no, just about had enough space to squeeze it in, it's very slightly wider than 1 slot so it's *extremely* close to my NIC below it but they're not quite touching
[17:32]<@Calum> it might even be that benchmarks are just writing in a strange way or something, as I say I can copy a multi-GB file at the speed it should reach, but crystaldiskmark for example only reports 4MB/sec speeds, as does HDTune, ATTO crashes completely
[17:33]<@BC_Programming> it may be overstressing it with stuff like random read/writes
[17:33]<@Calum> Hmm, could be
[17:34]<@Calum> older version of crystaldiskmark seems to crap out as well, stuck on "preparing" before it starts testing...might leave it a while and see if it comes back to life
[17:34]<@Calum> just asked it to do sequential only, no random, see if it does anything
[17:35]<@Calum> still 4MB/sec
[17:35]<@BC_Programming> I was fixing up a Inspiron 531s so my Parents could use it
[17:36]<@Calum> is that one of those small form factor machines?
[17:36]<@BC_Programming> Yeah low profile, PITA
[17:37]<@BC_Programming> actually it is a computer that was used by our housemates around 8 years ago when we had a massive house... the wireless card inside it is the same one I put in years ago
[17:37]<@BC_Programming> HDD was trash so slapped in one of mine... Seems the internal graphics are borked though- Linux Mint hangs if I try to do anything at the desktop, and KUbuntu's window decorations are screwed up and missing
[17:38]<@Calum> Ah, that sucks
[17:38]<@BC_Programming> I was installing Kubuntu and went to bed figuring at worst I'd have a garbled screen. Woke up and the system was off and now it won't power on at all, so that's fun
[17:38]<@Calum> lovely
[17:38]<@BC_Programming> I would have installed Windows but I'd rather not risk my MSDN sub by giving keys to other people :P
[17:38]<@Calum> heh indeed
[17:39]<@Calum> I got my mum using a laptop with Linux and she's quite happy with it
[17:39]<@BC_Programming> I might have to put together a budget build for them or something
[17:40]<@BC_Programming> though I did actually fix my Mum's tablet- ASUS Vivotab 8. Apparently it has a well-known defect that breaks the touch or pen input, and in this case touch was busted
[17:40]<@Calum> old Dell of some sort with a Pentium M, quite snappy on Lubuntu but a bit of a pain because it doesn't support PAE so there was a switch I had to use during installation, and it can't install any OS updates presumably because of that switch
[17:41]<@BC_Programming> is Pentium M before or after Pentium 4? I don't remember doing anything special with my Dimension 4400 to install Linux
[17:41]<@Calum> around the same time but I think all P4s supported PAE, whereas the very first pentium Ms didn't
[17:41]<@BC_Programming> that would explain it then
[17:42]<@Calum> It does the job for her, I just have to remind her not to click when it says updates are available
[17:42]<@BC_Programming> the Dimension 4400 worked fine... until I let my parents use it.. now it hangs randomly, thx guys
[17:42]<@Calum> hah
[17:43]<@Calum> I was looking at a cheap PC the other day, Lenovo I think...had like an Atom based processor and used SODIMM RAM but in a desktop form factor. It was £110 I think with Windows 8 included, seems like a decent buy to be honest
[17:44]<@Calum> if someone just wants a basic browsing box anyway
[17:44]<@Calum> Lenovo E50 - http://www.ebuyer.com/658956-lenovo-e50-desktop-pc-90bx0018uk
[17:44]<@Calum> quite a smart little PC for what it is
[17:44]<@BC_Programming> yeah I dealt with a Lenovo system like that I think, price here was around $249 when I looked it up
[17:45]<@BC_Programming> ahh nvm the one I dealt with was actually a laptop
[17:46]<@BC_Programming> I don't mind having an excuse to build a new PC though, and since it's not mine I can totally cheap out
[17:46]<@Calum> HP do some awesome cheap Probooks as well, like the Probook 255. I'm forever getting mailshots about them at work because we buy slightly higher-end HP, but they're also quite tempting for budget buys, when they have the cashback offers they're like £150
[17:46]<@BC_Programming> I mean ahem "balance quality and price"
[17:46]<@Calum> hah
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[17:50]<@BC_Programming> I think I'll do that in the next few weeks- spec out a cheap system that they can use for browsing. Not like they need a 4800K, 16GB or a GTX 980 or anything
[17:50]<@Calum> to be fair, these days I consider anything with an SSD to be adequate for 90% of people's usage
[17:50]<@Calum> even old COre 2 systems are still decent enough for most tasks
[17:51]<@Calum> Make sure you get a 100000W PSU though, "future proofing"
[17:52]<@BC_Programming> One thought I had was to grab a old thinkpad for 100 dollars or so off Ebay, XP Era system, then slap Linux Mint on it
[17:52]<@BC_Programming> but that's not as fun as building a system
[17:52]<@BC_Programming> (and I'd end up keeping it for myself if it was a thinkpad no doubt)
[17:52]<@Calum> hah
[17:53]<@Calum> I'm the same, I start looking at refurbed/off-lease business laptops and then I want to keep them myself even though I have no use for them
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[17:54]<@BC_Programming> I just like thinkpads... I check ebay hoping to find a 755CDV but so far my hopes are always dashed
[17:54]<@BC_Programming> There was a 755CE on there but that just wouldn't be the same
[17:54]<@Calum> heh
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[17:56]<@BC_Programming> the CDV let me take the back off the screen and use it on a projector, it was amazing. I used it precisely 0 times
[17:56]<@Calum> hah, killer feature then
[17:57]<@BC_Programming> I'd take off the back occasionally just to remind myself of it. "Wow, neat" "OK let's make it useful again"
[17:59]<@BC_Programming> At least it had a Active Matrix TFT. I think we should all be grateful we don't need to deal with Passive Matrix screens
[18:02]<@Calum> Indeed
[18:03]<@Calum> By the way, I finished a book today which I thought was pretty great, don't know if it'll appeal but though I would share - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0988262509?
[18:03]<@Calum> It was quite different to how I expected it to be, but I actually really enjoyed it
[18:06]<@Calum> I think partly because the IT department in the book is somehow in a worse situation than the one I work in, but still
[18:06]<@BC_Programming> interesting
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